No, no, it really doesn’t depend on that

Colin Powell wouldn’t know credibility if it bit him

POWELL: I don’t know where these things were being approved at a political level.

MADDOW: If there was a Principals Meeting at the White House to discuss interrogation techniques?

POWELL: It does not mean it was approved, anything was approved, at a meeting.

MADDOW: OK.

POWELL: It depends on did the meeting end up in a conclusion or was it just a briefing that then went to others to make a final decision on and to document. And so it is a legal issue and I think we have to be very careful and I have to be very careful because I don’t want to be seen as implicating anybody or accusing anybody because I don’t have the complete record on this. And that complete record I think in due course will come out.

Once you start discussing torture techniques at the cabinet level, and the thing that comes out of the meeting is not a succinct “Don’t do that; if you do that you will go to jail”, it’s all over but the truth commission.

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